#Jd 650 dozer series#

The best thing you can do is to try them both out, as I'm sure you know. It's just not a black and white type of question. I know I have not given you a definitive answer but I felt as though this post will give you enough information for you to dtermine, for yourself, which one may better suit you and your application. I know that you can work through tough ground w/o rippers, at least to some degree (you can rip with one end of the blade angled in), but it is WAY less efficient and will greatly accelerate U/C wear (many more passes vs rippers, and you will have to steer to stay straight). The 650 can do most of the jobs that the 4 can (unless you need rippers) but it will take you longer. If you are afraid that the 650 is too big (which I doubt) than the D4 will be that much more too big. The D4 will finish grade but will require more practice/better operator do do the job, IMO (it's just a ltiile bit harder to 'feel' sublte grade changes, and blade visibility is not as good as the low drive units). Sweeps and screens (part of most forestry packages) would be nice if you are pushing over trees. Yes the winch can be a life saver in rough, rocky, or steep terrain but you have not stated a forestry application. IMO these small dozers NEED rippers as they are just too light to doze the harder soils w/o them.

IMO the bigest drawback to the Deere could be the hours (we don't know if the Cat has less or more hours), and the fact that I would require rippers, instead of the winch (again, you have not stated if the Cat has rippers, winch, or nothing out back). I think the bigger issue here is the application and these machines are different but can, in many ways, overlap in application. The Deere G series, as a whole, does not have the same fan base/converts as they H, and now J series, dozers.Īs far as brand goes I would lean toward the Cat as I feel I get the better service from them (in my area, and that may not be true in your area), they have better resale, and IMO they have higher quality undercarriage parts (OEM).

#Jd 650 dozer series#

If you are talking H series (DEERE) then the hydrostatic drive system will allow you more efficient dozing while turning (not the case with the G series). The 650 will be better for the road rehab (assuming you mean placement and finish grading of aggregate), and finish grading around buildings. IMO the D4H would be better for road building and house pads. There is not enough info., here, for me to make a decision (if I was doing the buying). I will look to the Cat the next time I need to rent though.

There were several small issues that I found annoying but, over all, I though the 450H was a good little dozer. The 650 will probably be a closer comparison to the D5s that I normally use. The machine just would not push the amount of dirt that I'm used to. The Deere was noticeably smaller than what I was used to. I recently rented a Deere 450H becuase I was curious, and the availability of at Cat was questionable. I usually go for the D5 G/K when renting. I must admit that the majority of finish dozer experience I have is on Cats. I have been told, by several people, that Deere is making a great finish dozer these days. I don't have ton of experience with Deere dozers. It's a high drive unit and will push more than the 650 in one pass. If I remember correctly the D4H is similar to the current D5M/N. Deere has the small dozers about right for the past 40 years when they started making a 450c. Which do you choose, and don't say cat cause its the right color yellow. Garage pads, maybe a house site, re-habbing dirt drives, farm road / log road maintence and that type of stuff. I wanted a deere 650h, forestry package, winch, w/ like 4k hours & decent chains, but when I called a local dealer they said that they had a cat d4h low hour repo there, and they didnt know the $$ but were sure it was very resonable. The job should be close to the total payment for the used dozer. The job is going hourly, I'm thinking it may take a month, maybe more to do all the required work. An additional 1.5 miles of new skid trail, then cleaning up 3 landings and dressing up 4 miles aprox of old trails after the skidders are done. Had a pre job with the customer on Monday, and I'll have 3/4's of a mile of road to build that will have to handle loaded tractor trailers, single lane, so 12' minimum, 15' prefered. Charge for permit as oversize load. $2,000.00 Deposit required.So I'm still hunting a dozer. John Deere 650 H-LGP Bull Dozer With 28' tracks 129' 6-way blade